Barbara, Dan, and Kelley talk to GWU professor Samuel Goldman, author of After Nationalism: Being American in an Age of Division, talking about what defines the country today, and how we might re-orient our exceptionalism towards being a model rather than a missionary. In the first segment, Kelley and Dan relive the Donald Rumsfeld of 2002 and 2003, and his Iraq War legacy.
More from Goldman:
America Has a Ruling Class: Why do members of the political elite insist that they’re not? -- New York Times
America: the (Un) Exceptional? Sam Goldman on the future of our nation-state