The war in Ukraine will end with a negotiated settlement (no one knows how
or when) but whatever it will be will likely forge the basis of a new European security order if not an international one, says Yale historian Michael Brenes. What would that order look like? He suggests it should be one in which the U.S. and other great powers play a role in eventually bringing the Global South into a multilateral embrace of shared national interests and around 'progressive' values beyond security — like economic development, health care, social justice, and climate change. Can this work, or is it just pie in the sky? Dan and Kelley ask him to explain. In the first segment, they discuss whether the Republicans have what it takes to tackle the bloat and corruption of escalating defense budgets.
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